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Topic: Where have they gone??? (Read 1049 times)
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Idba
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Oh, how I don't miss those guys. You know them well too. Remember when men with long beards with guns on one hand and the holy book on the other one attacked a major Somali city on a Friday!
I remember that day well for I dressed up nice to go to Al Huda mosque just find out the mosque was close. I sat by the door and few minutes later an old man told me to run to home because something crazy is about to happen.
I have not seen that old man since that day. Perhaps he died in the war. May be he moved to another city. or may be who knows...? But I thank him for he unbidden except by his own humanity probably saved my life that day. Many folks died around that mosque that Friday.
I was blocks away when bullets starter flying everywhere. I took my shoes off and run as fast as I could to my house. My auntie was waiting for me at the door and she was happy to see me again. Come inside she yelled, they are killing people all over the city! Who is killing people, I asked? Itahad Al-Islam she answered. What auntie? Yes, come inside and lets hide behind the wall away from the doors she said. We did that for next fourteen hours as bullets kept flying all over the city.
That was twelve years ago in 1993 and I am so glad those guys are defeated. I remember their leader was a man named Hassan Dahir Aweys. He was wounded in that war and eventually his Itahads were defeated by the civilians they attacked on a Friday morning. I have not heard about him ever since plus the name Itahad Al islam is very much history. Thank Allah we don't have to deal with hipocrites with guns and Kitaabs that want to divide and destory our people.
I hope the United Islamic Courts, not USC mind you, is not the same guys with a new name. But wait, I heard their leader is a man named Hassan Dahir Aweys. It must be another guy?
Or is this United Itahad Courts, UIC, disguised as another org.?
Right?
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najmo
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truly, i hate the fact that these people lived in mugadisho in the last sixteen years and that some of so called leaders attack puntland and kismayo, while caydiid was in mugadisho killing innocent people everyday, everyminute and every second, however, all somali leaders are the same. all somali leaders are criminals and sell outs. the last decent leader we had was Ahmed Gurey.
anyway, i love the shaikhs. they are ones who dedicated their time, energy and even live to somalia and somali people. they want peace,and unity nothing more, nothing less and for that, i fully support the the Islamic Court , and i know that shiekh Sharif is very sincere and want the best for somalia and i agree with him that somali people need to forgive, forget and move on.
it has been twenty yrs, if not more, that somali people were suffer of unjust and lack of strong leadership to bring our people together,but time has come.
this the only way we can live in peace.
Quran and Sunnah my people.
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Kaj
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Lol @ Idba, you don’t need to make up a story to let us know where you stand. 
God Bless the Sheikhs. They are true heroes.
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Idba
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........running from site to site making up stories..... Who made up story buddy? By the will of god I hope the man that attacked fellow Muslims on a Friday, of all days, don't start another 15 years of civil war.
Brother, you may have not heard about the war I am talking or you are too young to remember but it was the one when Itahad Islam led by Hassan Dahir Aweys attacked the city of Garoowe. Ask around about how terribly they were defeated on that way. You will hear about such places as Saliid, Qurac Midgan, Ligle, and Buurawadal. In these places you will find the burrial grounds of many Itahads killed after they were kicked out of Garoowe.
Perhaps before you say someone made up a story you should do your homework and revisit history. Hassan Dahir aweys can fool you southerners but he sure can't fool Puntlanders, and Somaliladers as well.
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dalmare
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Idba, All you want is your uncle to become president so you could go back to boliqaran Not gonna happen
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akhyaar
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Although I was not a witness, but from what I have heard Abdullahi Yusuf and the Xabashi's invaded Puntland and killed the Sheikhs there.
I personally do not know Dahir Hassan Aweys, but if it is true that he is running the show in South Somalia, it is thumbs up for him, since now that part of the area is so peaceful that the Airport and ports of been opened, after 16 years of mayhem, and thumbs down for whoever allianced with Ethiopia to invade Somalia.
Oh by the way speak for Puntland, but don't for Somaliland because many Somalilanders do not like Abdullahi Yusuf and his cronies.
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Idba
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Akhyaar this is not about Puntland or Somaliland. The UIC is determine to take over the entire country and according to them Somaliland is part of the country. That is the goal of Hassan Dahir Aweys and other remaining Itahad member. They want to rule the entire Somali terrotory.
And since I am a nationalist of course I can speak for any Somali group. Sadly you seccessionists can't say the same.
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akhyaar
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Idba I am a Somalilander, but I am not a secessionist, I am for saving our country, the best way we can, although below article is a persons opinion, but it does make you think.
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"That the claim by Washington and Addis Ababa that Somalia is in the grip of terrorists is false is plain enough, as is the presence of Ethiopian troops there despite the denial by Ethiopian leaders. Yet neither the so-called international community nor the United Nations have condemned the military invasion of a "failed state", which has now no chance of recovery because of the invasion."
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Ethiopia – which has been amassing forces along the border with Somalia while secretly maintaining some inside – openly sent troops on July 20 to the town of Baidoa. This move was made not only to protect the Somali transitional government there against the advancing militias of the Islamic Courts Union (ICU), but also to take a leading role in the US's ‘war on terrorism' in the "failed state". Addis Ababa denied sending troops into Baidoa, but two days later Ethiopian troops entered Somalia again, taking control of a second town, Wajid, which is 70 kilometres (about 45 miles) from Baidoa.
There seems to be no doubt that Ethiopian troops have crossed into Somalia, as both Western journalists and aid-workers in the country have confirmed it in the face of loud denials by Addis Ababa. In fact, an estimated 5,000 Ethiopian soldiers are believed to be inside Somalia, not only to protect the weak government of president Abdullahi Yusuf, himself a former warlord, but also to open "a new front in the American-led war on terror", as one British media report has put it. While denying that it has despatched any troops into its neighbour's territory, Addis Ababa has made its determination to protect the transitional government quite clear – for instance, as Berhan Hailu, the Ethiopian minister of information, did on July 19. "We have the responsibility to defend the border and the Somali government," he told Associated Press. "We will use all means at our disposal to crush the Islamist group if they attempt to attack Baidoa."
Both Washington and Addis Ababa have good reason to be worried about the growing strength of the ICU: the last Somali warlord to be left resisting the group in Mogadishu surrendered on July 11 after two days' fighting. Abdi Awale Qaybdiid fled after a large number of troops handed over their weapons. As a militiaman loyal to him said, "it has become necessary to surrender and give peace a chance." The ICU seized most of Mogadishu in June, and Qaybdiid was the only warlord to continue to hold out. His surrender means that Washington has no warlords left to wage its war on its behalf.
But it was not only Qaybdiid's militia that was ambushed by the ICU on July 9. Those loyal to Hussein Aideed, the interior minister, a deputy prime minister in the interim government, were also attacked fatally. In fact, the government is so weak that it is trapped in the small town of Baidoa and is therefore useless to the war that Washington is determined to prosecute regardless. The warlords who constitute it are hated by most Somalis for starting a civil war, along clan lines, in 1991, when president Siyad Barre was toppled, and waging it for 15 years thereafter. They are hated even more for acting as American agents and loyal allies of Ethiopia, Somalia's traditional arch-enemy.
Not surprisingly, the despatch of Ethiopian troops and the public statements by senior ministers and officials in Addis Ababa that they are determined to defend the interim government have angered Somalis even more, improving the ICU's reputation and portraying Abdullahi Yusuf and his ministers in Baidoa as agents of the US and Ethiopia. He is certainly their candidate for the presidency of a future secular government in Somalia, and is known to visit Ethiopia regularly; he is also known to have stayed there for a long period in the past.
Clearly, both Washington and Addis Ababa are totally opposed to the establishment of an Islamic government in Somalia or any part of it. The Christian rulers of Ethiopia and the US government, which under Bush is strongly influenced by the Christian right in the US, are prepared to go to any lengths to prevent an Islamic group from gaining power in Somalia. The Ethiopians fear that such a group would unite the Somalis and might even influence those in the Ethiopian region of the Ogaden to resume their struggle to join their brethren in Somalia. The Bush administration has put Somalia at the centre of its war on terrorism, arguing that al-Qa‘ida has established a base there: a claim that is dismissed as utter nonsense by Somalis and even by Western journalists visiting the region.
In these circumstances, both Washington and Addis Ababa are ready to use military force, as indeed they have done in the past. Ethiopia sent troops into Somalia in 1993 and 1996 to crush "Islamic militants" who were said to be planning to establish an Islamic regime. Both have been engaged – and continue to be – in a lot of military cooperation, and in fact carry out joint exercises along the Ethiopian-Somali border, tracking ‘suspected terrorists'. The US is able to take part in the military exercises because it has a strong military and intelligence presence in neighbouring Djibouti, a former French colony whose population is totally Somali.
To give credibility to its cooperation with Ethiopia and its military and political blackmail of Somalia, Washington claims that Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, the leader of ICU, is a terrorist and keeps him on America's list of most-wanted terrorists; other senior members are wanted by the US for involvement in the bombing in 1998 of its embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.
That the claim by Washington and Addis Ababa that Somalia is in the grip of terrorists is false is plain enough, as is the presence of Ethiopian troops there despite the denial by Ethiopian leaders. Yet neither the so-called international community nor the United Nations have condemned the military invasion of a "failed state", which has now no chance of recovery because of the invasion. One explanation for this silence is that the US, not Ethiopia, is in charge of the aggression and has brought pressure to bear on the ‘international community', including the UN and its Arab allies, to keep them silent. If Washington is able to exert pressure on them to be silent in the face of Israel's invasion of Lebanon and Palestine, it can do so even more easily in the case of the invasion of Somalia.
What is wrong with the UIC taking over Somalia, it is obvious that they are doing a better job than the TFG. If Hassan Dahir Aweys wants to take over Somaliland, so does Abdullahi Yusuf, but it does not mean they will be able to, without the people's consent.
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