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Topic: Mohamed abdulle hassan, was he a somali hero? (Read 8329 times)
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pretty_Burco_girl
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a-hakeem "Dalmar said to me "you are probably those flight thirteen people who open their eyes in the united states"...hehehe you cracking me up dough, even as I write this, honestly I left somalia in the early eighties never have I been to economy class on a aeroplane before the last two years as I changed to feel the breeze of what its like to be out of the first class. Let me tell you this dough my family run somalia. Yes I was a privileged person in somalia as a kid, did I agree to what was happening to the isaq people in the eighties? NO is the answer. Did I go to school in egypt and dubai with isaq kids? YES. Were they my closest friends of all somali people? YES. DO I HATE ISAQS? NO. Now most of your socalled isaqs (cause I would not call yous somali landers and you know the reason why), there is and was the reality in the eighties that margaret thatcher then british liberal prime minister and george bush senior republican president elect....then......literally shrugged off what the regime in the indian ocean coast was doing to bomb civilians....did they or were they the brits and atlantic cousins did any thing for ya....the answer is NO. Did they arm Bare especially united states of america?....yes. Was he their ally? YES. Do you think any of those policies have changed today?NO....you guys need a whole lot of reform to show you can run your tribal affairs first at hand let alone a state. Somalia is not your enemy, darood and hawiye are not your enemy. Most of somalia have been victims of the last regime. Joining the part of creating the new somalia is the only answer today to our problems, a unified somalia."
Hi bro
As isaaq i never been in somalia or somaliland and i know who run the country defently not you old man. Why you old cuz you talking about 80's which is more of us did not born. let me tell you something dat i now about my tribe we never hate any one regardless clan/ class we do not even now if you most of you exite walahi i never heard of darood , hawiye cuz all my family are isaaq over isaaq,top of dat i respect all human being even non muslim. hey, yo said you had isaaq freinds and close ones i dout dat cuz if you do day must abused you dat time and u expressin you old memries with us now tttttttttttooooooo late **** and do not even said dat this wat his name again hassan was a hero and if he was isaaq had and have millions hero and very talants ppl. Once i was watching Fresh prince in Bell say... Will smith.. white ppl always remember the king of rock meant Elves as hero... and black never remember any one cuz they have tooooooooo mony to remember....... Micheal, Jordan etc.. my point is you only have one where we have tooooooo mony so keep him as hero kkkkkk.Speaking of class isaaq known as richest somalis live on earth even Ethiopea calles us God of mOny$$$$$ so we have millioners and you talkin couple dolars you getting from welfare in MN or Ohio ****. stop talking to us cuz we do not talk with losers and lowlife like exussss my launge this guy make me sick bye city girl burco
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xPo
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pretty_Burco_girl, Excatly, that is the nature of Dalmar, if he sees other people with different views than his, then he start using very abusive and degrading language to his apponents. Read all his threads and you will see the smell.
My wife is from Burco and my sister lives there as well as she is mareied to a Burcawi brother, so I frequently pay visits to Somaliland and to Burco in particularly. Your views seems much more familiar to me, thats also the typical Burcawi views when it comes to the future of these region. Most of them are proud somalis and have aspiration of greater Somalia than division.
Xpo
Together We Stand, Divided, We Fall. [/b]
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Dalmar1
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You know what Xpo! Somalis sayHUBSIIMO HALBAA LA SIISTAA.
pretty_Burco_girl; had quoted a_hakiimo and her response is directed to him. And there you go without paying attention you just saw my name and took the opportunity to bash me.
According to my philosophy; if everybody likes or dislikes my opinion then there is something wrong. However, if some people like my opinion and others find it as nonsense then things are going well.
As far as I am concerned, your old name is Fatkov, and I know no matter what I say to you; you cannot teach an old dog new tricks.
You claim that your wife is from Burco, and your sister lives in Burco and she is married to a Burcaawi man, but your hatred towards the people in that region could be smelled from miles. In another topic you have state people in that region-namely Isaaqs have Yuhuudi culture.
Sure you have apologized for saying that but your attitudes towards the people in that region havent changed. For instance, in another topic where Idba talked about his experience about Daallo Airline and the altercation that he had with some passengers from Burco, you have said if you (Xpo) were the pilot you would have thrown them (passengers from Burco) out of the plane, the same way that human traffickers force people out of the boats at a gun point and dump them into the red sea.
Again you said that you were joking, but that is not a joke.
Also, every time you want to address Somaliland issues; you keep saying Isaaq this, Isaaq that, Iidoor this, Iidoor that
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You are old enough to know that the word Iidoor is not something nice to refer to Isaaq people. It is a derogatory term and the least to say it has negative connotations attached to it but you keep continuing your stereo typical attitude towards a certain group in the Somali society.
Obviously, somebody needs to drop the hate package that he is carrying on his shoulders, and most certainly somebody needs to grow up.
No kidding, you are the author of his own misfortune and I am not here to medicate you but I am here to educate you.
I dont object your opinion. Of course like everybody else you are entitled to your opinion, and in fact, any debate is worth reading if there are different views and that is what makes it interesting. However, what I object is your personal attacks towards individuals that dont share your views. Also, I found it disgusting and outrageous your hatred towards Somaliland in general and in particularly your strong animosity towards some its people.
Dalmar
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xPo
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As far as I am concerned, your old name is Fatkov, and I know no matter what I say to you; you cannot teach an old dog new tricks. Dalmar, now you seem panicking, Stop pressing the panic button and calm yourself. Who is this Fatkov?. By Allah I am not fatkov you suddenly start talking about, I am Xpo, your friend and I am not the type of double faces. As they say, Doqoni wuxuu yahay ayuu adiga ku modaa So if you change identities, man, so I am proud to be different, a higher class of your type. Sorry!
You claim that your wife is from Burco, and your sister lives in Burco and she is married to a Burcaawi man, but your hatred towards the people in that region could be smelled from miles. Man, as I told you many times, I dont hate all Isaaq, as I myself have many loved relatives there and so my kids too, nevertheless, I hate brainwashed people like yourself, who was told to hate their fellow non-isaaqi citizens and been misguided to the core and given a fake hope of nothing. Another thing is that generalisation thing, which is common phenomenal for us, humans to use and can sometimes be dangerous stuff. So in this regard, I have learned from it and I would inshaAllah try to narrow it down to something like Club Hargeysa or Hargeysa Mafia or The Hargeysa Gang instead of using the term Isaaq which is sometimes not suitable.
In another topic you have state people in that region-namely Isaaqs have Yuhuudi culture. Sure you have apologized for saying that but your attitudes towards the people in that region havent changed. Why do you keep repeating this incident? I let you to carry on buddy! Typical you! But my utter protest is towards the Club Hargeysa anyone who beliefe what they believe and stand for. And if we, all Somalis together, dont stop them now, then there will be a catastrophic outcome for us all (Somalis). This group Club Hargeysa is like our zionist or fascist and have a wicked ideology. Driven by greediness, personal gain and not in the best interest of their people, let alone others.
For instance, in another topic where Idba talked about his experience about Daallo Airline and the altercation that he had with some passengers from Burco, you have said if you (Xpo) were the pilot you would have thrown them (passengers from Burco) out of the plane, the same way that human traffickers force people out of the boats at a gun point and dump them into the red sea. Again you said that you were joking, but that is not a joke. Dalmar, Dont you think it is now the right time for you to go to your local opticians. Man, read carefully in between lines. I was just making a joke of the deadlock situation they were in. Let me copy and paste for you so I can remind you of what I wrote that day:
Reg. the fight between one of the stuff and three Somali guys. If I were from Daallo, I would have thrown them out of the aircraft, like those Bosaso boat gangs do to risk-takers somalis. They actually give the options either be shot and dead or be thrown into water if they dont shut it off. Joking! [/color]
Then, for God sake, tell me where I did refer my comments to Isaaq? You really sick, Dalmar. Brother, expand your horizon and get cured!
Also, every time you want to address Somaliland issues; you keep saying Isaaq this, Isaaq that, Iidoor this, Iidoor that
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You are old enough to know that the word Iidoor is not something nice to refer to Isaaq people. It is a derogatory term and the least to say it has negative connotations attached to it but you keep continuing your stereo typical attitude towards a certain group in the Somali society. So what? Ma aniga ayaa magacan baxshay? I only used it and deliberately used it ONLY against you, as you used the same term to another man. Who gives you the right to call others bad names? Adkeysi lahoow waryaa. I am not gonna use this to any other decent and civilised Isaaq brothers/sisters. This is to you and only to you, so anyone else cant be interfered as this is to you only, baby and for anyone else start bad-mouthing.
Obviously, somebody needs to drop the hate package that he is carrying on his shoulders, and most certainly somebody needs to grow up.
then it must be you, who needs most to grow up and learn from your mistakes. Hate is the trademark of Hargeysa Gang so think that as well.
No kidding, you are the author of his own misfortune and I am not here to medicate you but I am here to educate you. Before you educate anyone else, educate yourself first, then others. Its you, who need it most. Because if you were educated enough, you shouldnt have been in the level of ignorance you finding yourself in now.
I dont object your opinion. Of course like everybody else you are entitled to your opinion, and in fact, any debate is worth reading if there are different views and that is what makes it interesting. However, what I object is your personal attacks towards individuals that dont share your views. Also, I found it disgusting and outrageous your hatred towards Somaliland in general and in particularly your strong animosity towards some its people. Who attacks who? Who educates who? I am not sure if you are on something, but you seem confused, bro. Reread your posts with magnifying glasses this time. And what is that "animosity" thing towards Somaliland people you keep saying all the time? Plz refer to my above statements. Is it hate if I disagree ppl like you and what they are preaching? To express my opinion about the renegade Hargeysa Gang or at least to point out their monkey business.
I am not anti Isaaq, but sworn anti Somaliland state. If you want to turn it to the opposite like you always do, then do it.
What next, then?
XPO
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Warrior-Afdhaal
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Sayid Mohammed Abdulle Hassan was a Somali hero
Born and raised in Widhwidh, Sool, he is considered the first man to stimulate nationalism in our political history.
Sayid Mohammed would forever be remembered as a hero.02
Tell me how would the present day Somaliland transform from its tribal ideaology of seeking recognition if it campaigns to distort its own history.02 How would you raise your historical authenticity if you were to deny the man who fought for your independency?
Every colonized society has undergone revolutionary period of political struggle led by notable leaders. They take pride in writing their history and commomerate their accomplishement.
Besides, Sayid Mohammed would have continued his struggle for another 25 years , unfortunately he died of a natural cause while building more forts and recouping his strength.02 He was more stronger and powerful than he ever had been before his death, as most historians confirmed.
Unfortunately, he didn't outlive to see his dreams.02 SYL and other Somali nationalist groups picked up where he left and by the time we were given the independency, our first nationalist song was made in remembrance of his 22 years of struggle.
Sayid Mohammed ABdulle Hassan, a great Somali hero and leader.
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Rahima
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I totally agree with you warrior and well said  mohamed abdulle hassan was somali hero and everyone around the world know that but it is dispointed to see some of our own somali pp talking trash about him. educated u self people and go back to history. it is in history that he was somali hero.
God bless mahamed abdulle hassan and those who died
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habia
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And then maybe what is heroism to some is terrorism to others. In my book he was the greatest hero ever. Here is a letter which he wrote to the British people. You do the math.
I wish to rule my own country and protect my own religion. If you will, send me a letter saying whether there is to be peace or war. I intend to go from Burao to Berbera I warn you of this - I wish to fight with you. I like war, but you do not. God willing, I will take many rifles from you, but you will get no rifles or ammunition from me. I have no forts, no houses, no country. I have no cultivated fields, no silver, no gold for you to take. I have nothing. If the country were cultivated or contained houses or property, it would be worth your while to fight. The country is all jungle, and that is of no use to you. If you want wood and stone, you can get them in plenty. There are also many ant-heaps. The sun is very hot. All you can get from me is war - nothing else. I have met your men in battle, and have killed them. We are greatly pleased at this. Our men who have fallen in battle have won paradise. God fights for us. We kill, and you kill. We fight by God's order. That is the truth. We ask for God's blessing. God is with me when I write this. If you wish for war, I am happy; and, if you wish for peace, I am content also. But if you wish for peace, go Solvay from my country back to your own. If you wish for war, stay where you are. Hearken to my words. I wish to exchange a machine gun for ammunition. If you do not want it, I will sell it to some one else. bend me a letter saying whether you desire war or peace."
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habia
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Ok what's up eh?. Cat got your rodent? I gues its true.
We are all inclined to judge ourselves by our ideals; others, by their acts.
If we are real Somalis or better yet real muslims we shall live the dead alone and let them rest. They are regardless of their actions Allaahi's burdens not ours.
Habia
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GIOIA
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yaa allah,mashaqa badana somalidan ..........anyway u right my dear rabia....there is same thing very wrong to my people somalis...(why they not stop the comment and look for the future...allah karim (waano abur ayaa ka horeysay)..
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subeer
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i would like to talk about the topic which is Mohamed Absdille Hassan was he a hero, yes of course he was. before going down the reason i said that statement as we aware off The Sayid Mohamed Abdille Hassan devoted his self to fight the british colony among, the reasons caused that fight was the Sayid saw that biritish colony is wanting to change the Islam Religion into thier religion ((christianity) so he decided to save his people from that dangerous situation, the only thing that the Sayid won is he conivinced the somali people to hate the infidels, Sayid Mohamed's remarkable struggle to free his religion and country from foreign domination was remembred one.
There, i have so much interest to conclude my speech that the Sayid Mohamed Abdile was a national here as well as religion definitely.
Subeyr Osman Idiris LAs-anod Somalia
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habia
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Thanx Mr Idiris, you just hit the nail on the head. Habia
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darwiish2
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hello friends
It is pleasure to talk about this important topic . As we know somalia had taken independent from a different colonies like italy colony and british colony before 45 years . we can say that indepence is behinded the somali hero sayid mohamed abdilehasan who made a hard struggle to save somali people from the against enemy . the colonies tried to kill sayid mohamed many times but they failed . sayid and infidels were fouthting along time and thousands soldiers were beheaded and others were cuptured by the darawish. the war was contuening at least 21 years, during the war sayid's forces which used to call darawish killed alot of puppets who were trying to espionage darawish .
the headquarter;s darawish was "taleh ". taleh is one of the famous towns fo somalia , but now it is not a development town , I can say that caused by the people's town . somalia was divided four parts in 1884 at berlin. after that two had reunited . when somali government callopsed rehearsed war was "somaliland " this word is came from the former british colony therfore it is not a good word we need to eliminate it . we are saying somalia forward notback , we will overcome this problem if allah says and reach "somali great" this is unforgetable word nobady can't leave it . we need to pacify our mothercountry if we exert it i hope to succeed
written by mohamed ali abdi somalia- sool region
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