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Topic: Is Somaliland Destine to FAIL? (Read 31368 times)
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Mehdi
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Dalmar
"after 100 lives, mainly from Dhulbahante were lost in that war, it become apparent to the Graads of Sool that M.C.Xaashi is willing to sacrifice many of his people for political gain."
You can say what you want Dalmar it is over the people of Sool and Sanaag will never choose to be part of Somali land after the killing of 100 of their boy's like you said. So forget about them move one and create your own dreamland called tribal land.
"But on the other hand, Dhulbahante and Warsangeli should know that they can not hijack the wishes of the majority because that would be undemocratic."
What are you saying the have never chosen for Somaliland, they have never been consolidated and second somaliland doesn't exist and as you know the majority of Somalia those not want a Isaac state to be created and as you say majority rules so get your act together because there is no Somaliland state and there is no such thing as Somaliland brothers.
Get your act together Dalmar, wake up, smell the coffee,
my somalian brother wake up from your tribal dream,
stop eating chat.
stop being arrogant,
stop lying,
stop fooling yourself,
stop trying to change history,
stop coming with your white arguments,
stop acting British
stop joking
stop dividing( remember what you said wasangeli is ok, but
duhlbhanta bla, bla..............)
stop being a kafar
stop being like a *****
stop being so fagash ( fagash was the government and
not darood like some idiots
compare to
stop acting like Wharin of arabia( he divided they arab
people in to 24 nations)
stop being such a snob
stop being sad
stop being pitiful
stop fantasizing
stop being American
stop !!!
stop !!!
stop !!!
stop !!!
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Kismayo dude
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Is Somaliland destined to fail?
Yes. It is already a failing state with out recognition.
Isaaqland will never get no where. They better give up soon and join Abdullahi Yusuf before he takes care of em.
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CITY_GIRL_BURCO
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hi all and spcilly Dalmar1
i do not now wat to say, hearing wat you all guys saying, let me to ask you one qustion? Sanaag and sool are isaaqland right or? i allways thought dat the city of laas caanood belongs only to Dhubahantee,? becouse most ppl who or mjortiiy of ppl in somaliand are 97% isaaq. and they live alomst every where expct, Awdle and lasscanood. Mybe i'm wrong if i'm, my bad then. After all i never been dar and i do not know much. but dat wat my family told me. Anyway, we do not have to arguing for something dat happend, i mean s/l is govement and now it's most richest cost in Africa so far, no dout about it. Looking at other part of darood and hawyia land i mean South there is nothing dar for them, dat's why, they are hater and only foucsing on s/l?
i have good advice for you "other somalis" please ,get a cup of Time Hortns ,think about wat you doing and save your family and help them for next dream comes true. For all somalianders, i'm saying good job and keep the hard work. S/l is not one nation it is one country which has more isaaq and less hater ...........
any way i lost my point ...... next time
bye still wating for answer
citygirlburco.com
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snm-101
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Hey Burco girl,
You are very funny!!!!lolkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
You can be on somalilands funniest commedy some day.
You are cool!
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xiis
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if anyone is a failure its the ones begging the international community for the 14th time and still cant get it right. They r even having brawls in the hotels of Nairobi  aleeylehe wey idiin dhamaatey 
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Qaldaan
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Mehdi most of your ramblings discribe the doroos
Who are the most snobish
uptight, arrogant somalis.
You are the ones living in dreamland,
fisrt go and create a real somali state,
and dont say that you have ,
abdullahi yusuf is worth nothing unless he is in
vila somalia in moqadishu running the government from there.
Somaliland will not simply go away , if you keep burying
your head in the sand.
You guys are like an ostrich when danger is stalking them they bury thier head in the sand and expect the problem to go away.
Well somaliland will not go away.
And why the constant babling about ,
recognition this, recognition that,
you dont have recognition, the world doeasnt recognize you.
No amount of nagging from an old maid like you will
change anything, because what counts most is our ability to defend ourselves and keep mandeeq alive.
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Cultured Clanist
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I will not enter the fray because i will upset people with my views and they will upset me back. Then i will be very upset and insult them. Such is my feeling towards somaliland. That feeling makes me see Red when:
1) Somalis say that somalilnd cannot succeed.
2) Somalilanders say we shouldn't succeed (Bunch of spineless segegers)
3) History is either manipulated, purposefully forgotten, or tottaly ignored.
But I have one thing to say. When Somaliland is recognized, the immiediate grants and loans will fund projects in areas such as Hargeisa, Burco, and areas to the west. The people in Sool snd Sanaag who do not support somaliland cannot expect to share the riches. But they shouldn't expect to be attacked by the goverment because after all, they are our people and live in our own lands.
However, if they decide to take up an armed struggle in a pre-emptive move against the Somaliland goverment, then it's fair to say that they would have to be swiftly dealt with.
My intiution and foresight tells me that they would be happy and willing to give the full support that they should be giving now.
As for the Majeerteens, they are dwindling in all aspects of their existance in Somalia. They are trying to stick their fingers in every pie from Zaylac to Kismayo. But the heat is being turned on and will soon be on full blast. Many fingers will then surely be burned.
And my how i will laugh.
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Mehdi
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Qaldaan
"But they shouldn't expect to be attacked by the goverment because after all, they are our people and live in our own lands. "
This what I meant whit do not be arrogant, do not be a snob since when has this land be yours , since when did you have the right to decide for those people who live in those regions to belong to you so cald Triballand.
Like I sayed keep on dreaming
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Idba Abdi
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Mehdi, let' em dream on cause that is the only thing going for them.
My brother, we are people of rich history and great leaders and always came on top on every stuggle.
history will show we were right on this one too for we want what is good for Somalia and they want to destory what little hope there is left in unifying our people.
Some day historians will show you and I were on the right side of things, and they will be, well...........history by then!
They have lost every armed and political struggle so far, don't you think they are destine to lose in the future as well?
Have a good day Somalis
Abdi
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jocker
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Yes, landers=losers.
idba i admire you more and more, that you dont let the slanders shut u up.
i like your style my somali brother.
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Mehdi
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SHOULD
HARGAYSA WORRY ABOUT PRESIDENT
ABDILLAHI YUSUF?(source Warsan newspaper)
Since the creation of the Somali transitional federal parliament and the crowing of Col. Abdillahi Yusuf as the new Somali interim president few weeks ago, therehas been growing political uncertainties in Hargeysa. And despite the Riyaale
administration’s attempts to give reassurance to the people in and around Hargaysa, anxiety and political insecurities keep growing at an alarming rate. Surprisingly, the country seems to be in a deep political shock. Indeed, the worse possible outcome that everyone feared and prophesized (rightly or wrongly) came as a dream that finally came true when the recent military clashes occurred in the Sool region with a deadly result.
The question is whether the wind of fear and political uncertainties that is blowing up wildly in Hargaysa is real or imagined. I will discuss this question in detail later in this article but suffice it to say that I happen to believe that there is no reason whatsoever for my home city of Hargaysa to fear serious political and military threat from the south in the foreseeable future.
Indeed, I would argue that the biggest security to the secessionist agenda would most likely come from within. This is for the most part due to the lack of political and social cohesiveness in that region caused by the strong divisive tribal cleavage and a government brought to its knees by out of control corruption, nepotism. And a leader who is absolutely clueless about what to do with the power entrusted upon him by the people other than for selfish personal and tribal enrichment. More importantly, Mr. Riyaale’s apparent inability to devise a workable governance and economic system that could deliver goods and services to the masses has created wide spread anger, disillusionment, economic disappointment and political apathy towards the notion of Hargaysa standing alone in the political wilderness.
Paradoxically, after several years in office the local business communities overwhelmingly consider Mr. Riyaale’s administration as the greatest obstacle to the economic well being of the country. Oddly enough, it seems to me that the political establishment in Hargaysa and indeed the northern “intelligentsia” as a whole went into disarray, lost the core argument and worse of all went into hiding after the creation of the Somali Federal Parliament and subsequent crowning of Col. Abdillah Yusuf as Somalia’s interim president. There are several reasons for this unprecedented
level of fear and political uncertainties. First, the incredible speed of the positive political developments in Nairobi took everyone by great surprise. No one thought the savage tribal and regional warlords, would suddenly come to their senses, act rationally, denounce personal political greed, accept defeat, sing the blues in sorrow and support Col. Abdillahi Yusuf as the new Somali interim president.
Second, the entire northern secessionist ideas were myopically based on the assumption that the south is dead in the water and it will never regain its strength to stand up politically. In fact, as strange as it sounds few people in the north thought that the south would ever recover from the political abyss that devastated that part of the country for so long while the north enjoyed relative peace and notable economic activities.
Third, the clan based political cleavage in the north was (and still is) so strong and divisive that no one cared to pay much attention about the political developments in the south. Indeed, as argued above, the common wisdom was that the south would simply sink further into an abyss of political irrelevance. To their peril, the northerners thought that there was no need to worry about Mogadishu and divert much needed attention from the more pressing local politics and tribal priorities.
Fourth, the leaders of the major political parties and the entire political establishment in Hargaysa made serious strategic political blunders by creating false hopes and by painting a simplified picture about the people in the south and their ability to solve their differences and create a government of national unity. Indeed, the false assessment made in Hargaysa regarding future political outlook for southern Somalia was at best a “wishful thinking” and at worse ignorant political analysis gone wild. Therefore, the conclusion made was that the south must bring their house in order first before the north could start political talks. As a result, they did not make any long-term strategic political (and if necessary military) preparations regarding on how to handle when the south finally rises from the ashes of the civil war.
Fifth, successive political and tribal leaders in the north created false hopes regarding future political, economic and social prospects for a stand-alone separate tribal fiefdom with the colonial demarcations lines as its national borders. This seems to me as a history lesson that has not been learned. Almost all of the conflicts in the African continent can be traced back to the mistakes made by the colonial powers when they imposed illusive borders that were not based on the socio-political realities on the ground. Ironically, no one in Hargaysa cared about the fact that large segments of the Somali people in the north have stronger political and tribal linkages with the south and thus are not impressed with the notion of separate “Somaliland”. Hence, the idea of creating a separate state without taking into account the political realities on the ground and the Somali tribal landscape was (and still is) not sustainable in the end.
Last but not least, most northerners, myself included, thought that the likelihood of Col. Col. Abdillahi Yusuf ever emerging as the new Somali president was as remote as the Milky Way galaxy. As it turned out, we could not be more wrong as Abdillahi Yusuf got an overwhelming support from the Somali people for his endeavor to become Somalia’s interim president. As I mentioned above, the political establishment in the north and its intelligentsia made several fatal political mistakes after the collapse of Siad Barre’s brutal regime. Most notably, instead of planning ahead and devising
viable strategic plans to counter any future political maneuvering from the southern leaders, the north went deeper into political isolation both inside Somalia and more importantly in the international diplomatic arena.
Consequently, after fifteen years of marketing the notion of independent “Somaliland” both inside Somalia and abroad, no country paid much attention, gave any support and offered political recognition for this cause. More importantly, even inside “Somaliland” there is a mere tribal based lukewarm welcome for the secessionist political agenda.
There are several reasons for this mammoth political failure by the north to convince anyone to pay attention to the secessionist notion of independent “Somaliland”. Most notably, there have never been any clearly articulated intellectual, political or economic arguments for the secessionist political agenda. Indeed, there was no regional debate on how to proceed after Siad Barre’s brutal regime was brought to its knees almost fifteen years ago. No regional referendum or any other form of political consultations with the people was ever conducted. In short, the whole secessionist project looks now like a lost plane on automatic pilot flying as far its fuel tank will take it.
This should not have been the case as there are some segment of the Somali people in the north who would prefer a political divorce from the south. However, whether that segment of populace constitutes a political majority is hard to say at this point. As I mentioned above, I do not believe the alleged political and military threat from the south is real despite the recent military clashes in Sool. Indeed, I believe that it is at best an extremely over blow, imaginary, and none-existent threat and at worse an illusive idea from a mind hallucinating with “marqaan”! Following are few points supporting that argument.
First, neither President Abdillahi Yusuf nor anyone else in the south has the power and the resources to assemble enough military might to force the north to reunite with the south. More importantly, it will serve no purpose to make such a foolish attempt to force the north militarily as they will simply resist to the last man and stick with their guns.
President Abdillahi Yusuf is begging for foreign peacekeeping forces to secure his presidential palace and he cannot even travel to Mogadishu! Hence, if the President wanted to invade a Somali city, I am sure Mogadishu would top his priority list!
Second, a military threat from the south will help strength the wide spread perceptions in the north that the south is an oppressive regime that trying to force its will on a people that are struggling for its freedom and independence. Consequently, an action like that will give huge political and moral boost to the secessionists. Hence, no one who cares enough about the notion of Somali national unity, President Abdillahi Yusuf included will ever entertain such a foolish and counter-production strategy.
Third, there is no political desire among the Somali people both in the north and in the south alike for taking a military action that could potentially prolong the misery of the civil war and shed the blood of more innocent Somali
lives. In short, if Mr. Riyaale and his cohorts are serious about preserving the republic of 11
Bill Ainashe
Washington, DC.
United States
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Dalmar1
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Mehdi
When you post your own articles, then I will give you my opinion.
You always post other people’s work without their permission. I am sure, Sugale had told you before to stop plagiarizing.
We can find these articles for ourselves from other Somali websites and most definitely we can post couple of hundred articles that belong to other people but what is the point?
Having said that; don’t you have a mind of your own?
Dalmar
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